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« on: March 08, 2010, 12:01:00 AM »

A refreshing read.  A few weeks ago I got into a debate with a Detroit Red Wings fan who stated that "Brian Burke has done nothing since he's been in Toronto ... I've watched far more Leafs games than you've watched Wings games, and all I know is Brian Burke has done absolutely nothing."

REALLY?  I mean come on, shake your effen head.

While the comment about watching games was true, I couldn't disagree more with his comments.  I couldn't help but be extremely annoyed by an ignorant "Wings" fan (not hockey fan).  I'm tired of the ongoing negativity around the Leafs and where they stand.  This article from Ulmer was a refreshing read, and I might add doesn't even include all of what Burke has done.

Bottom line for me, Burke seems to be the right man for the job and I like what he's done.  In fact, he's done a lot more than I expected and given me faith and hope in my beloved Blue N' White once again.

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Burke Has Re-Made Leafs Roster
Thursday, 04.03.2010 / 11:33 AM / Mike Ulmer's Blog
By Mike Ulmer  - Mapleleafs.commentator


http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=520129

The trade deadline has passed and the Leafs roster, if anything, is weaker today than yesterday.

When Brian Burke first sat down in the Big Chair on November 29, 2008 everyone knew what they were getting.

Burke would follow his vision with the zeal of an evangelist. He would do things his way and since that had resulted in a Stanley Cup in Anaheim and a revival in Vancouver, his way looked awfully good.

He has not strayed, not in committing two first-rounders and a second to land a player he considered a sure thing in Phil Kessel nor in landing Jean-Sebastien Giguere, an expensive goalie who had lost his job in Anaheim but who had a Stanley Cup ring.

There’s no denying that things look very dark indeed right now. The Leafs are last in the East with a shot at finishing last overall and gifting the rights to Taylor Hall or Tyler Sequin to Boston.  And while the team has accrued a stable of young players: Luke Schenn, Kessel, Tyler Bozak, Jonas Gustavsson, Carl Gunnarsson, Christian Hanson, Viktor Stalberg, Dion Phaneuf and now, 21-year-old Luca Caputi, few save for Phaneuf will be stepping up and grabbing the reins of the team soon.

Until the Leafs become competitive again, the focus of the Leafs  limitless fandom will settle on the shoulders of the guy pulling the levers.

Now you may argue with the Burke’s decisions, particularly the one that brought Kessel here. Bear in mind, that’s a beef raised mostly in hindsight since the airwaves were not filled with people complaining about the cost when the deal was made.

You may quibble with devoting a roster spot and a $1 million to Colton Orr, the kind of one dimensional enforcer from which the game seemed to be moving away.

Maybe you wanted to keep Matt Stajan or think Burke should have hardballed Tomas Kaberle.
But there is one fact beyond dispute. The guy never lied.

He said he would rebuild from the crease out. Vesa Toskala will report to his third team of the season today.

He said he wanted a bigger and tougher defence. In came Mike Komisarek and then Phaneuf.

He said the captaincy of the Toronto Maple Leafs was one of the most important positions in sport and he would not move to fill it until he found the right man. Still no guy.

He said he would move players.  Gone from the beginning of the season are seven regulars: Nik Hagman, Jamal Mayers, Ian White, Matt Stajan, Alexei Ponikarovsky, Lee Stempniak and Vesa Toskala.

He said he would use every avenue to find talent. He signed Gustavsson out of Sweden and mined the U.S. collegiate systems for free agents Hanson and Bozak. He ponied up the draft choices for Kessel.

You can argue that while the Leafs are bigger, they aren’t the man-eating tribute to truculence Burke promised.  Burke says he will keep moving players until he gets 20 guys who want to win as much as he does. He has been on the job about 15 months.

And while Burke has never cottoned to the idea of a five-year rebuilding plan, he never said it would take a season and a half to turn the corner.

So here is what you are left with. The moves have been about what was expected. The immediate results are still meagre, a golden future of Kadri goals and Gustavsson saves, well over the horizon.

But there is one more indisputable fact: the guy has never failed. Not as a GM in Anaheim and Vancouver, not as a league official, not at Harvard Law.

It comes down to a question of faith governed by cold math. When calculating the future with no real data available, bet on what you know. Put your money on the guy who has never failed.
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 09:30:02 AM »

Very True.  Burke has done what he said He'd do.

I too have had discussions with other Team Fans who think that Burke isn't doing anything.

He has totally changed the Roster from two years ago. He's working towards a better team, and anyone who believes that a team can be changed from last to a Stanley Cup contender in a year is an idiot. 

Now when it comes to the Detroit Red Wings, if I were a Team fan, I'd take a long hard look at the future.  IF they expect Burke to be able to turn the team into a winner in a year, why Can't the Amazing Wings Management manage to turn the Wings into winner this year?

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 12:21:25 PM »

He has totally changed the Roster from two years ago.

Now when it comes to the Detroit Red Wings, if I were a Team fan, I'd take a long hard look at the future.  IF they expect Burke to be able to turn the team into a winner in a year, why Can't the Amazing Wings Management manage to turn the Wings into winner this year?



Egg Zactly.  I'd love to know how many players are on the current roster that were here when Burke started only 16 months ago.  A complete overhaul of the team.

And that's why I think this Wings fan lives in a box.  Let's face it, the Wings have been the template for a winning team this last decade.  But I think some Wings fans (in the case of the one I've talked to) believe winning is simple and easy.  It's not, for if it were they would be able to turn this team around and compete for the Cup this year.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 03:49:34 PM »

I still think the Wings have the template for winning...they still have a chance to make the playoffs and their players are starting to get healthy again. I would not want to be a top team in the west and have to play the red wings in the first round.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 07:58:02 PM »

Yeah I do like some of the things Burke has done and he obviously hates to lose so he is far from finished retooling this team.   
Yeah I agree Leafer the Wings had a lot of injuries and most if not all are back now so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them go deep into the playoffs.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 11:47:54 PM »

I'll be very honest, I think the tide is changing for the Wings myself.  If they do make the playoffs, I can't see them making it past the 1st round.  Great organization, definitely a model for winning, but I think you are going to see them progressively dip in the standings in the coming years.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 03:07:15 AM »

I'll be very honest, I think the tide is changing for the Wings myself.  If they do make the playoffs, I can't see them making it past the 1st round.  Great organization, definitely a model for winning, but I think you are going to see them progressively dip in the standings in the coming years.
And what did they lose from last years stanley cup final team that would make this so?
Lidstrom is still one of the elite defencemen and I don't see the tide changing until he retires or that is no longer the case. AND I hate defending them. Where is Normy to defend them so i can go back to saying they suck.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 01:20:18 PM »

I don't find that read 'refreshing' at all...so what, Burke has done what he said & we're still rubbish & will be rubbish again next season!We're heading backwards if that is even possible!
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 02:09:25 PM »

You can't take a Buick and slap on some stainless steel exhaust tips and add some body filler and pinstripes and expect it to be a Corvette.

Right now Burke is in the process of a full body off restoration and remake.  How can the end product be judged when it isn't anywhere near completion.

That's like looking in a car guys garage and telling him his car sucks, but all you were able to see was all the parts strewn on the workbench and a bare chassis in the centre of the shop.

2 steps backward to make 10 steps forward is quite acceptable if the end result is long term stability and competitiveness.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 03:27:39 PM »

As flawed as your anology is (I much prefer the grand national to a corvette......  Punk )

I agree with your concept.


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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2010, 04:42:15 PM »

As flawed as your anology is (I much prefer the grand national to a corvette......  Punk )

I agree with your concept.


Well if we're going to talk cars here how bout the Bugatti Veyron?
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2010, 06:43:16 PM »

As flawed as your anology is (I much prefer the grand national to a corvette......  Punk )

I agree with your concept.


Well if we're going to talk cars here how bout the Bugatti Veyron?

Hmmm .... that's quite the car.  But I've driven a Corvette ('75 Stingray), I will never get to even sit in a Bugatti Veyron, let alone see one that's not behind a rope with a security guard watching it.

So yes, (back on topic) ... Brian Burke has done what he said he was going to do.  He completed dismantled the team that he was presented with 18 or 19 months ago.  He stated that existing players would get an opportunity to prove themselves, they didn't get the job done, so out the door they went.  He's brought in younger players with the expectation that they will mature as a team together.  This Leaf team is the youngest in the NHL and likely the youngest the Leafs have EVER been as a team.  We are getting to see what teams that have crashed and burned do instead of bringing in aging veterans to provide a band-aid patch so that the upper brass can see some 1st round playoff dollars.

For that I only applaud Brian Burke for finally doing what needed to be in Toronto.  Claps
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2010, 06:53:56 PM »

My only criticism of the new era (including fletcher in this) is that

1) They didn't do enough to get a true shot at Stamkos
2) They didn't do enough to get a true shot at taveres
3) And now when they're finally truely cleaning house, its in the year they've traded away our top two picks.


Having said that I really beleive that Burke thought the team would be a playoff contender this year, and I admire Burke for not sticking to his guns, admitting the team he assembled stinks and doing what needed to be done.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 10:43:05 AM »

I really beleive that Burke thought the team would be a playoff contender this year, and I admire Burke for not sticking to his guns, admitting the team he assembled stinks and doing what needed to be done.
At the very beginning of the season Burke stated something like that: or we are fighting for PO spot or I'll clean the house. His word is appear to be stone.
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 09:54:13 AM »

I'll be very honest, I think the tide is changing for the Wings myself.  If they do make the playoffs, I can't see them making it past the 1st round.  Great organization, definitely a model for winning, but I think you are going to see them progressively dip in the standings in the coming years.
And what did they lose from last years stanley cup final team that would make this so?

Where is Normy to defend them so i can go back to saying they suck.

Nothing.  But that doesn't mean the same always works.  A lot of the reason they are where they are in the standings is due to injury, but it could also be reflective of the fact that other teams are getting better.  I'm not saying I am counting them out, but I think they can be considered the dominant team we've known them to be anymore.

Love your second comment.  LOL
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2010, 09:55:50 AM »

You can't take a Buick and slap on some stainless steel exhaust tips and add some body filler and pinstripes and expect it to be a Corvette.

Right now Burke is in the process of a full body off restoration and remake.  How can the end product be judged when it isn't anywhere near completio


You can't?!?   Scratches Head Scratches Head Scratches Head

As to your second comment, I'm not sure why some people just don't get that.  A lot of people share calico's view, but I can't understand why.
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2010, 09:58:25 AM »

He's brought in younger players with the expectation that they will mature as a team together.  This Leaf team is the youngest in the NHL and likely the youngest the Leafs have EVER been as a team.

For that I only applaud Brian Burke for finally doing what needed to be in Toronto.  Claps

Look at last night alone.  Kessel, Caputi, Stahlberg, Bozak and Gunnarsson all could've been considered for one of the 3 stars.
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